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shanna

we attended Shabbat morning groups in one community in which the group leader sang a Shabbat version of the “Wheels on the Bus.” One line went as follows, “The mommies in the shul go chatter, chatter, chatter…”

I'm speechless.

Zman Biur

I'm speechless.

Then obviously you don't go to that shul!

Miriam

That's disgusting. Whether or not it's true, why would you put it in the song? We don't want to glorify talking in shul!

I'm a little less "modern" but we still make sure our girls feel valued... we took on the Lubavitch custom of having our daughters begin lighting a Shabbos candle at three because we also follow the custom of not cutting our sons' hair until age three, then having a party for it, presenting a kippah and such. We had a different kind of celebration around lighting a shabbos candle, mostly because it happens on erev Shabbos, which is not the time for a big party!

In our family (we live just outside the eruv) Mama and the babies don't go to shul on Shabbos, but you bet we go on Yontif! And not to socialize! (At least not during the service.) And any and all older kids who can behave in shul (girls and boys, we don't distinguish) are invited to go with Daddy.

Men and women all recline at our seder, and both parents bless the children Friday night. So maybe I'm more modern than I thought!

I will tell you that my second oldest is a girl, and the oldest is a boy... they are just 15 months apart. When we started reminding our oldest to wear his kippah (at three, for meals for starters, since it was so hard for him to get used to it) she would hear us and say, "oh, I need my hat!" and run and get her little pink beret. She wore a hat most of the time until she was about 5 and a half. Every one thought it was to be like Mama, but we knew it was because of her brother.

In general, I'm more interested in each child feeling valued and special than in comparing and finding their roles to be "equal" but I hope you find a way to achieve the balance you seek. Hatzlacha!

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